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Podcasts like The Cognitive Revolution

Nathan Labenz talks with AI builders and researchers on The Cognitive Revolution. Here are six conversations, each with a Chain of Thought episode to play next.

  • 6 episode pairings

I host Chain of Thought. We have no affiliation with The Cognitive Revolution: no partnership, no arrangement, nothing either of us gets from this page.

What The Cognitive Revolution is

The Cognitive Revolution began in February 2023. Nathan Labenz hosts the show. The site publishes interviews with AI builders and researchers, along with AI Scouting Reports and news discussions.

Recent interviews cover agent governance, enterprise software, robotics, work, automation tools and agent memory. The episode pages include show notes and automatically generated transcripts.

At a glance

The Cognitive Revolution and Chain of Thought
DetailThe Cognitive RevolutionChain of Thought
HostsNathan LabenzConor Bronsdon
First episodeFebruary 2023November 2024
FormatInterviews, AI Scouting Reports and news discussionsInterviews with engineers, founders and operators shipping AI in production
TranscriptsAutomatically generated transcripts on recent episode pagesA full transcript on every episode page
Where to listencognitiverevolution.aiEpisode archive and podcast apps

Details for The Cognitive Revolution come from the sources below, checked 14 October 2026.

Where Chain of Thought fits

Chain of Thought stays with the engineering and product decisions behind an AI system. Conor Bronsdon interviews the people building and running those systems. The Cognitive Revolution also brings researchers, founders and other guests into conversations about what AI could change beyond a single deployment.

Which one to start with

Start with The Cognitive Revolution for a long conversation about how a new AI capability may affect products, work or governance.

Start with Chain of Thought for the decisions inside one team putting AI into a product or operation.

You do not have to pick one. The pairings below are where the two shows meet.

  1. Then play

    Chain of ThoughtEP 6051 minTranscript We Built Agents, Nobody Built HR | Tyler Akidau, Redpanda Tyler Akidau, Redpanda Tyler Akidau of Redpanda takes the governance question into enterprise deployment, outlining identity, authorization, observability and accountability for agents.

  2. Then play

    Chain of ThoughtEP 1940 minTranscript Low-Code AI: From Requirements to Apps in Minutes | OutSystems' Rodrigo Coutinho Rodrigo Coutinho, OutSystems OutSystems co-founder Rodrigo Coutinho shows how its Mentor product turns requirements into applications and where developers still guide the result.

  3. Then play

    Chain of ThoughtEP 4751 minTranscript Gemini 3 & Robot Dogs: Inside Google DeepMind's AI Experiments | Paige Bailey Paige Bailey, Google DeepMind Paige Bailey of Google DeepMind connects those robotics questions to the developer tools and model choices behind Google's broader AI work.

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    Chain of ThoughtEP 5857 minTranscript The AI Hiring Doom Loop: Applications Up 239%, Hires Down 75% | Daniel Chait, Greenhouse Daniel Chait, Greenhouse Daniel Chait of Greenhouse follows the work question into hiring, describing how AI-generated applications are changing the process for applicants and employers.

  5. Then play

    Chain of ThoughtEP 731 hr 2 minTranscript Genspark's Bet: AI Agents Become the Users of Software | Wen Sang Wen Sang, Genspark Wen Sang of Genspark follows the tools question into a product built on the idea that agents become the users of software.

  6. Then play

    Chain of ThoughtEP 5359 minTranscript Agent Memory: The Last Battleground in the AI Stack | Richmond Alake, Oracle Richmond Alake, Oracle Richmond Alake of Oracle continues the memory question with the data structures and retrieval choices behind an agent memory system.

Sources

Facts about The Cognitive Revolution on this page were checked against these pages on 14 October 2026.

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