Roundup

The best AI agent podcast episodes

11 episodes on how AI agents get built, shipped, and evaluated. 6 are from Chain of Thought, the show I host. 5 are from other shows, because no single podcast has covered all of this well.

This is an episode list, not a show list. If the question is which podcast to subscribe to, I benchmarked eleven AI engineering podcasts on my own site. This page answers the narrower one: you have forty minutes, and you want to understand agents better than you did this morning.

How these were picked

Topic first. Each episode had to be about agents as a working system: how one gets built, and what breaks once it is in front of customers. Episodes that mention agents in passing did not qualify, however good they are.

Nobody paid to be on this page, and no show had a say in what this page says about it. Where money or a business arrangement connects me to a show, that show's entry says so plainly. Every description is written from scratch: no artwork, no transcript text, nothing lifted from anyone's feed.

From Chain of Thought

The show I host. Each of these has its full transcript on the episode page.

  1. EP 29 50 min Transcript The Emerging AI Agent Stack | CrewAI’s João Moura João Moura, CrewAI João Moura was building CrewAI while the category was still being named, and this is the closest thing the archive has to a map of the layers underneath an agent. It gets past the framework question fast and into provisioning, authentication, and measurement, which is what the work turns into once a company runs hundreds of agents instead of one. Oldest episode on this page, least dated.
  2. EP 39 54 min Transcript Vercel's Playbook for AI Agents: From Vibe Check to Production | Malte Ubl Malte Ubl, Vercel Vercel's CTO on the distance between a demo that worked once and something a company will put its name on. Malte Ubl defines agents as software for tasks too flexible to specify up front, which is a sharper line than most definitions manage, and then walks through what Vercel built to get teams across that gap. Play this one if your agent works on your machine and nowhere else.
  3. EP 48 50 min Transcript How Block Deployed AI Agents to 12,000 Employees in 8 Weeks w/ MCP | Angie Jones Angie Jones, Block The rollout story on this list. Angie Jones led the team that put AI agents in front of 12,000 people at Block in eight weeks, built on MCP and on Goose, the open-source agent her team released. Most agent content assumes the hard part is the model. This episode assumes the hard part is everyone else, and it is the one to start with when your blocker is organizational.
  4. EP 53 59 min Transcript Agent Memory: The Last Battleground in the AI Stack | Richmond Alake, Oracle Richmond Alake, Oracle Memory is the layer teams build last and regret building last. Richmond Alake wrote the open-source MemoRIS library and co-created a course with Andrew Ng, and this is the clearest hour I have found on why an agent that forgets everything between sessions can be demoed but never shipped.
  5. EP 57 43 min Transcript Every AI Agent Has an Evaluation Gap | Alex Ratner, Snorkel AI Alex Ratner, Snorkel AI Every agent demo works. The question is what happens the twentieth time, on a task nobody scripted. Alex Ratner names that gap precisely and makes a pointed case that the vendors selling agent "environments" have skipped the measurement problem sitting underneath them. He also walks through the Open Benchmarks Grant Snorkel put money behind to close it.
  6. EP 61 53 min Transcript The AI Framework Era Is Over: Why Context Is the Moat | Jerry Liu Jerry Liu, LlamaIndex Jerry Liu built LlamaIndex into one of the most installed AI frameworks of the past three years and then said the framework era was over. His argument is that once agent loops get good enough, the thing that stays hard is the quality of the context you hand them. Hear that from the person with the most to lose if it is true.

From other shows

Episodes I would send someone to that are not mine. Titles, hosts, and dates are as published on each show's own page.

  1. Refactoring Hosted by Luca Rossi

    Building With Agents Today — with Charlie Guo

    Luca Rossi writes Refactoring for engineering managers, and the angle follows from that: how a team changes shape once agents are doing part of the work. His guest, Charlie Guo, works on developer experience at OpenAI, so the examples come from inside a team that ships coding agents rather than from a keynote about them.

    Disclosure: Luca is a frequent collaborator over the years, and we've had business relationships past and present.

  2. Dev Interrupted Hosted by Andrew Zigler

    Agents moved where the work happens (and using MCP to find it again) | Slack’s Jaime DeLanghe

    Slack's chief product officer on putting agents where the conversation already happens instead of behind one more tab, and on what an open standard like MCP is for once a company runs more agents than any one person can track. I built and hosted this show at LinearB before Chain of Thought existed; Andrew Zigler runs it now. Still the best place I know on the discovery problem, which is how anyone finds the right agent at the moment they need it.

  3. How I AI Hosted by Claire Vo

    Computer & browser use in Codex (5 real examples)

    Claire Vo runs a screen share rather than an interview, and this one is her pointing a coding agent at browser and computer control across five concrete tasks. That makes it the least abstract thing on this page. She was a guest here on ep 36. If you have read about computer use and want to watch someone do it end to end in under half an hour, start with this.

  4. Latent Space Hosted by swyx and Vibhu

    Why AI Infrastructure must evolve for Agent Experience — Akshat Bubna, Modal CTO

    The layer underneath everything else on this page. Akshat Bubna is Modal's CTO, and the conversation is about what a cloud has to change when its customer is an agent rather than a person: sandboxes to run untrusted code in, and GPU snapshotting so a machine resumes instead of cold-starting every time. Nothing else here covers the compute an agent runs on.

  5. Latent Space Hosted by swyx and Vibhu

    Codex from 0 to 10M Users: Building ChatGPT Work

    Episode 48 above is an enterprise rollout. This is the consumer-scale version of the same problem: Akshay Nathan leads core product engineering at OpenAI and walks through Codex and ChatGPT Work reaching ten million users in two weeks, including the part nobody planned for, which is a coding agent getting pointed at finance and marketing work by people who do not write code.

Where to go next

Came here from one show in particular? There is a listening guide for people who like Latent Space, pairing its episodes with ours.

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